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That is some seriously nice work Haldi! I chose Dirt3, because in a racing game microstuttering is most annoying (you need the flow the most). When playing it indeed feels like some frames come to late as if the driver tries to make up for lagging behind. This of course is annoying as hell. Will edit this post soon with a new frametimes.csv without crossfire enabled, so we can compare the two.

Edit: Here are the frametimes for exactly the same scenario(game, track, settings etc.) accept for crossfire being disabled. And here are my system specs:

2500K @ 4.5 (1.365v)
2x 6950 Dirt 3 edition
XFX Pro 650W
Z68X-UD3H-B3
Ripjaws 1600mhz
C300 64GB, 1TB F3
CM 690 II Adv.
Win7 Ultimate
12.1 preview (as for microstuttering all the drivers I tried, feel the same )

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Mah..... I'm Out all day. Eating Fondue <3

Will be back in 6till 9 hours.

P.s asked a friend of mine, he programmed a Java tool which will open a .csv file and create a .png from the Graph. So it's just gonna be one click work to get a nice looking graph!

Hope we can get as much Crossfire users to do it as possible! With a lot of Games!

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P.s asked a friend of mine, he programmed a Java tool which will open a .csv file and create a .png from the Graph. So it's just gonna be one click work to get a nice looking graph!

Hope we can get as much Crossfire users to do it as possible! With a lot of Games!

Looking forward to that tool.

I must say I realy like this community. People tend to actualy help others, instead of flaming the hell out of people that ask for help.

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How much people tend to help others alway's shows how much interest they have themself!

So, here the new Graph. Looked especialy to make it from 0 to 35 ms like the other one! so you can Compare. (that might be a problem with the Programm, guess i'll make it from 0 to 60ms So from 999fps till 16 FPS its everything shown! Lower than 16 FPS won't work! but still..... from 0 to 35 looks quite good.... but just lower than 28 FPS won't show -.- Maybe making graph from Average ms +20-20ms.... might work, if programm supports it!)


And then there are the New Graphs that show the statistical Spread of Frames. Made by the Programm. You can change a lot of settings, but i hope i'll manage to modify it so it will work as one click! (And still able to change afterwards if you want to!)
(changed the NO CF one to maximum 1800 frames on Y axis, so you can compare!)
Edit: Added old Graph for comparission!

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I'm running a Sapphire 5970 Toxic (which are 2x5870s OCed to 900MHz on one PCB with 2GB VRAM each) on an Intel i5-2500k on an Intel DP67BG Motherboard for one year now. I only have issues with Eyefinity-Crap-Titles like the most recent ones: Skyrim, LA Noire, Witcher 2, Fable3 while others simply run great like BF3, Batman Arkham City (DX9), Deus Ex:HR.... (at least after several Game-Patches, AMD Drivers and CAPs)

Other games that run simply epic on that kind of setup are "Mafia 2" and "Just Cause 2". The rather old "Race" Series by SimBin, Civ5, Black Prophecy and the latter Total War Series-Titles all run great with almost maxed out settings on EF+CF.

I can't see how my Intel Board, CPU, Chipset are possibly affecting my gaming experience anywhere in a negative way. If it sucks, than it's all about the developers that fail to support Crossfire or Eyefinity or both properly.

Hyperthreading of course is a complete other issue in games (no matter which VGAs you use btw).

In my humble opinion if one starts building a solid system for EF/CF, this starts with the backbone of all: The Motherboard. And Asrock is not on my list of solid motherboard-makers, not even there "Premium-Mother" Asus is on that list. However, I'd blame Asrock for this particular experience and that nvidia-chip especially. Not Intel, not HT, no "few lanes" to blame in this case. At least I can´t confirm that.

In my humble opinion if one starts building a solid system for EF/CF, this starts with the backbone of all: The Motherboard. And Asrock is not on my list of solid motherboard-makers, not even there "Premium-Mother" Asus is on that list. However, I'd blame Asrock for this particular experience and that nvidia-chip especially. Not Intel, not HT, no "few lanes" to blame in this case. At least I can´t confirm that.

Well Asrock is a sister company of Asus. A couple of years ago they made cheap (crappy) hardware, but that isn’t true anymore. Besides, it is not the motherboard, since I am using a Gygabyte board.

If you want to help, maybe you can post a frametimes recording when both CF and EF are enabled.

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Delphium was so kind to provide me with some Frametimes.csv for Dirt 3 :)

On a i7-930 X58 HD5870 Crossfire.

Kinda hard to read something out of these.... HD5870 has more difference.... swapping between 8ms and 14ms ! HD6970 was more constantly! but then again, we don't have these fast Frames (2ms!) but also some slower frames but they are maximum 25ms. Not as high.

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It seems to me that there is more stuttering with the 5xxx series, but I believe that was already an excepted fact. Good to see the evidence though!

If people (especially people who don't have stuttering, or notice it at least) would post there frametimes it would help our comparison?

@Bushmaster, you said that buying an AMD system has helped you. Can you post your frametimes as well?

If in the near future someone on these forums has two 7xxx (the reviews of the 7970 got me excited) cards in crossfire, I would be really interested in frametimes, to compare with frametimes with the 6xxx and the 5xxx series.

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After reinstalling win7 and updating my bios to 11f (UD3H-B3), it feel like those spikes are gone. The general stutter is still there though. Haldi can you please make a new graph using this file, so we can compare the two benchmarks?

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Philips BDM4065UC(3840x2160) Acer Z35(2560x1080@200hz); 980 Ti Hybrid @stock ; 6700K 4.6ghz (1.35v)/D15; 16GB 3200mhz; Asus Maximus Ranger VIII; AX860; 1TB 960 EVO; 750GB 840 EVO; Teufel Concept D 500; Sennheiser HD6XX; Windows 10 (latest build)

Nope i can't i'm in Hollydays xD i'll be back samewhen next year.

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