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Arx Fatalis was totally awesome
I definitely recommend it, nice story although it needs its patches as I remember it. Just thinking about it makes me want to play it again...

and the documentation for such games bundled without it, is readily available at replacementdocs.com

I played vanilla Gothic 3 from start to finish and loved it. Yeah a few quests were bugged but otherwise i did everything and got two of the endings. Awesome, amazing game. Much much better than Oblivion (without mods). I put around 200hrs into each of them, but characters/story/quests etc. were all much more interesting in Gothic 3. Especially the weird tablet quests in the desert and the smiths quests (if I remember correctly...) it was a long time ago...

For me too, Gothic 3 was much better than oblivion, better stories, better sense of scale, better sense of achievements since very few things really respawn

Cranky, out of those games, I'd say the only one you need need need to play is Planescape Torment - Bioware's BEST RPG ever. That game puts all other Western RPGs to shame, it really does.

I've played all of them, and I intend to finish all of them. Actually, I've got in total 64 games on my list, and those were just the RPGs.

Planescape Torment, from what I have played, is second only to Fallout. And I have finished Fallout, but not Fallout 2 - I'm working on that one right now. Just got to New Reno and made my weakling 4-STR character a boxing champ by punching the opponents in the legs repeatedly until they can't stand up.

Eh, to be honest Planescape beats Fallout for me. But to each their own. I've always preferred fantasy settings to 'real' ones. Post-apocalyptic or otherwise. ;)

Fallout is really the only RPG that really pulled off the illusion of giving you true roleplaying - actual free choice and not just a set of predetermined paths with predetermined outcomes. Planescape Torment still feels like a choose your own adventure book, albeit an unprecedentedly deep and broad one.

BTW, Planescape Torment is Black Isle, not BioWare. Black Isle also did Fallout 1&2 and Icewind Dale 1&2, and they assisted with Baldur's Gate 1&2 though BioWare did most of the work.

BioWare's version of "roleplaying" is to occasionally make a quest with an alternate solution for evil people. Like slaying a kitten instead of getting it down from a tree.

Yeah, Black Isle. I knew I was forgetting someone important... :oops:

Hmmm...looks interesting, thanks for sharing. I think I may buy this one.

I haven't really played a decent RPG since Oblivion let me down so deeply. If this one is a return to form, that would be welcome indeed!

I'm just hoping that Dragon Age will also bring the genre back for players with, er, a brain.

Hmmm...looks interesting, thanks for sharing. I think I may buy this one.

I haven't really played a decent RPG since Oblivion let me down so deeply. If this one is a return to form, that would be welcome indeed!

I'm just hoping that Dragon Age will also bring the genre back for players with, er, a brain.

Wait so you haven't played the Witcher??????!!!!! :!:

Wait so you haven't played the Witcher??????!!!!! :!:

Yes, I did! Forgot that one...and yes, it was an excellent game. See what Oblivion has done to my memory? It's tainted eveerrrything....it...won't....go......away.....stop the levelling, stop the levellling....killling vampires at Level 1 with a rusty sword....death by rats at Level 20.....aaaaaargggghhhhh!!!

I feel better now thank you.

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Wait so you haven't played the Witcher??????!!!!! :!:

Yes, I did! Forgot that one...and yes, it was an excellent game. See what Oblivion has done to my memory? It's tainted eveerrrything....it...won't....go......away.....stop the levelling, stop the levellling....killling vampires at Level 1 with a rusty sword....death by rats at Level 20.....aaaaaargggghhhhh!!!

I feel better now thank you.

Oblivion is an open world hack n' slash game... think of it like that and it is more enjoyable, that's what I did.