Widescreen Gaming Forum

Welcome Mark :)

Guess What I finally got Deus Ex to work at 2560x1600!!.

All it took was to use the Open Gl renderer instead of the Direct X 7 one. Only problem is that on the 3007 the game is very dark and the games in built brightness thing doesn't work for some reason. It works under Open GL on my other PC but not on the main PC that is connected to the 3007. Maybe it would work better with a Nvidia card. Has anyone got a Nvidia card, a 3007 and Deus Ex to test this please?

Also here is a review of the new Dell 3007wfp-HC. It will be out in retail in Q2 07 and available to buy only with XPS system in early Feb 07. It is very nice but I don't think it's so much of a difference that existing 3007 owners should be concerned. SO I think it's good that it has been delayed as than means we can relax that we still have the baddest monitor around. lol

review:
http://www.hothardware.com/viewarticle.aspx?articleid=915&cid=2

Hi everyone.

I just tested Splinter Cell Double agent on my PC and can confirm that 2560x1600 works, and looks absolutely beautiful. Jaw dropping. My Pc struggles a bit though as I am playing with HDR+4xAA, +16xHQAF, soft shadows, high quality textures, hardware mapping shadows etc etc. Yes HDR and AA works aswell on my X1900 setup. I am fully patched to v1.01.



Splinter Cell: Double Agent = works fine with 2560x1600, but you will need a 512mb gpu to play it.

Edit I have discovered something very strange about Double Agents's 2560x1600 support, and it will explain why everyone thought that it doesn't support it. In fact I am the only person who has actually played Double Agent in 2560x1600out of all the folks with the game and a 2560x1600 panel.

There is a pretty demanding stipulation if you want to play at 2560x1600. A stipulation that will make the game impossible to play for everyone including me.

To play at 2560x1600 every setting must be switched on and maxed out , and you have to have 4xAA on along with 16xAF. Forcing any setting from the control panel will stop the game form playing at 2560x1600 as will changing any ingame setting from max or using no AA or AF.

I discovered this pretty soon after changing my AA from 4 to 2 as I found certain sections in the game to slow for comfort . Unfortunatley this means I can not play the game at 2560x1600 as max settings and HDR and 4xAA and 16xAF is just to demanding to be used all the time as there are mant places in the game where those settings cause the frame rates to go south.

As the game doesn't support dual gpu or the 8 series gpu there will be noone who will be able to use 2560x1600 and be able to enjoy the game.

Hopefully they will either fix this bug or allow crossfire/sli support or at least allow the 8800gtx to play the game.

Could you perhaps give me some pointers as to how I can "max" out the settings. I thought I did it by turning everything on in the ingame menu and selecting High for everything, but 2560x1600 is still not working.

After further analysis, it seems that it has nought to do with the actual ingame settings. The problem is that the game has a built in max of 1920x1200 and we know it can do 2560x1600. Or it could just be that the game is a buggy mess.

Anyway my new discovery is that you have to trick the settings. When the ini and the ingame no longer match the game will stop looking at it's compatability settings and and use the ini settings instead of the ingame ones.

I hope that made sense. It just requires playing around. To get it to work make sure you have 4xAA selected and 16xAF, and I don't mean ingame or from the driver , that won't work.

Make sure it's done from ini. The game will then work at 2560x1600. I would suggest getting rid off soft shadows and hardware mapping shadows they are not needed for 2560x1600 however 4xAA and 16xAF is. remeber to reset the resolution though if you change a setting ingame.

I have a 22inch screen and am considering getting a 30 incher. How much graphics horsepower is required for one of these? I have an ATI 1900XT. Would that be enough?

I have a 22inch screen and am considering getting a 30 incher. How much graphics horsepower is required for one of these? I have an ATI 1900XT. Would that be enough?

Depends on what games you play. I can get almost passable frame rates in Guild Wars with the 7300 that came in my Mac Pro.

Unfortunately I play FEAR, Oblivion, Gothic, Spellforce, AOK. Games in the FPS and RTS genre.

Unfortunately I play FEAR, Oblivion, Gothic, Spellforce, AOK. Games in the FPS and RTS genre.

Yeah those games will play fine at 2560x1600, I used to do that before I got my 8800gtx. With FEAR however you will have to scale down to 1920x1200 or 1920x1600 as there seems to be an issue with 2560x1600 with very poor performance and a small lighting issue in a couple of places. I am talking about max settings however, if you use medium you will be fine.

Oblivion is fine with an XT, but I would suggest using your overdrive feature to get XTX speeds ,as it's very easy and helps alot. With the Xt at XTX levels I was playing with max distance sliders, low shadows, hdr and 2xAA. It was playble and looked great.

Gothic 3 works great with max settings.

Alot of other games worked very well with 2560x1600 and the X1900XT(X). Including Tomb Raider: Legends, Hitman: BM, Fablle etc.

One thing though you will need a very pwoerful cpu to get the most out of Oblivion and Gothic 3, especially at 2560x1600. If you have an Athlon (dual core)64 chip reckon on pushing your cpu to around 2.6ghz at least to get the most out of it. You will also have to install that dual core driver .

I have slightly upped the clocks on my card. I notice that my room gets warmer when I leave it clocked so I have three profiles created for clocking.

My cpu is a FX60 and I have installed the AMD dual core optimizer.

Once ATI releases their DX10 cards then I will decide which card to upgrade to.

I have slightly upped the clocks on my card. I notice that my room gets warmer when I leave it clocked so I have three profiles created for clocking.

My cpu is a FX60 and I have installed the AMD dual core optimizer.

Once ATI releases their DX10 cards then I will decide which card to upgrade to.

lol. Yeah I have noticed my room getting warmer to. I switch of all my central heating when my pC is on and I am in the same room as it.:)

ALso yes I also advise having profiles and not leaving the gpu's clocked high at all times, as not all apps even need it.

What I used to do was before playing a demanding game to overdrive the gpu then, and then swicth off overdrive afterwards. It doesn't take very long and usually in PC gaming you have to venture in to the driver anyway vefore playing a game even if just to chekc AA levels. I also leave "use overdrive settings at start up" off, so if I forget to switch it off I know when I restart it will be back to normal.

I know have a 8800gtx (in sli actually) and have noticed quite a large improvement in frame rates at 2560x1600. The main difference being where as with the X1900 I had to pick and choose settings at 2560x1600 with the 8800gtx I can enable everything and have power to spare for HQ AF and AA. But I wouldn't say it;s necessary to run 2560x1600 in fact I wouldn't eb surprised if even the X1800XT could run 2560x1600.

You see the X1900XT architecture has been optimized for very high resolutions and extra power kicks in when it is running at 1920x1200+ resolutions. Those optimizations don't quite match up to the brute force of a 8800gtx though but you do at least get to play at decent settings at 2560x1600. The 7900gtx unfortunately doesn't have the same kinds of optimizations and it begins to konk out at 2560x1600.