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PostPosted: 18 Oct 2016, 08:42 
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Heya!
I'm planning on a PLP setup and i already have 2 monitors i'd like to use for this.
The one's i've already got are 2 x BenQ GW2270 VA
http://www.benq.com/product/monitor/gw2 ... fications/

So i'm planning on getting a 32/31,5" monitor as center.
Would the Acer EB321HQU be a good choise for this purpose?

The BenQ monitors i've got already are 100 PPI and 0.248 pixel pitch.
The Acer one is 93 PPI and 0.273 pixel pitch.
Is this gonna mess things up and make it look mismatched?

What would your recommendations be? Is there any monitor you'd recommend using
with the ones i've already got?

I haven't got a decent GPU yet so for a PLP setup, would i get by with a R9 380X or what
would i need to get decent framrates on an acceptable budget (which i know's subjective).

Thank you very much in advance.


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PostPosted: 18 Oct 2016, 20:18 
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Those won't line up.
- BenQ GW2270 1920x1080, 22" marketed, 21.5" viewable size.
- Acer EB321HQU 2560x1440 32" marketed, "31.5" viewable size.

I have no specific recommendations, but can get you started:

1. Use MonitorMixer, http://www.wsgf.org/blog/imusrt/2016/01 ... out-finder

2. You can ignore this (pointers):
A. Some magical PLP layouts hide a bezel. Decide now if you are that person (to either hunt them down or disqualify them).
B. Some layouts have hanging sides, some don't. It makes zero difference. Decide if you care. If you care, it will be harder to get the exact game-canvas-shape you want, with the inner-bezels exactly where you want them (because sides are often skinnier on aesthetically-aligned-heights; you must decide if aesthetics is important to you-- i.e. the look of your furniture basically. I personally love hanging sides, it is another thing you can use. But whatever, real minor, either way).
C. If you don't like the layouts your sides will create, seriously consider NOT using them. I.e. start fresh, buying the center of your dreams, then buy shitty used sides that will line up (so you end up paying little more than if you used your current sides). If do this, you get exactly shape you want for little extra cash. You would be happier than buying more toward a layout you don't actually want.....
D. Perhaps the wisest layout-choice allows upward growth (if you want Big now & Huge later). For example, you buy PLP_Layout_A, which has sides that can be used on a bigger better center (your future upgrade-purchase intention for a future PLP_Layout_B). There are a number of good layouts that have this flexibility, you just gotta find them. If do this, you can reuse some expensive sides & plonk in new center.
E. If you drop the resolution on side monitors, the image on sides is not as crisp. But it still looks good, a perfectly legit choice (I use it happily; it also gives you greater flexibility, for matching). It is also completely unnoticed ingame (because it looks good, but you aren't even looking at it; you look at center, sides are peripheral vision).

3. Graphics card: There is no point thinking about it until you know your ballpark pixel-count. Let us know (your decided total width x center's height).

4. MonitorMixer output, searching for center based on the sides you own:
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OPTIONS USED - Process Type: Find center. Layout: PLP. Units: Inch (unless stated). Tweaks: flexFit True, noGambler True, allowAltSide (lowered resolution) True, maxSideHang 4", maxSideShort 0.1".
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5 LAYOUT(S) FOUND. See footer for options used.

LAYOUT 1
48.9" 21.5-29.7-21.5 (2560x1600 & 1920x1080)
Center:
29.7" viewable, 2560x1600 (16:10)
~101.65 PPI
Sides:
21.5" viewable, 1920x1080 (16:9)
~102.46 PPI
Position inner edge very slightly forward of center's bezel, still remaining bezel-to-bezel.
Total perceived hang past center screen: ~3.12"
Final Gaming Area:
Perceived shape: center is semi-tall & semi-slim, sides have tall medium width
Viewable size: ~48.9"
Width: ~46.3"
Height: ~15.7"
Resolution: 4720x1600
Pixel count: 7,552,000 (weight level 13/30)
Aspect ratio: 2.95 = 59:20, ~21:7.119, ~16:5.424
Perceived overall as ~101.65 PPI (pretty high PPI)
PPI variance: ~0.82 PPI (a close match. Monitors will be flush or near-flush)
Accumulated vertical image variance: ~3.18mm (falls within proper range)
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LAYOUT 2
49" 21.5-29.8-21.5 (2560x1600 & 1920x1080)
Center:
29.8" viewable, 2560x1600 (16:10)
~101.3 PPI
Sides:
21.5" viewable, 1920x1080 (16:9)
~102.46 PPI
Position inner edge slightly forward of center's bezel, still remaining bezel-to-bezel.
Total perceived hang past center screen: ~3.12"
Final Gaming Area:
Perceived shape: center is semi-tall & semi-slim, sides have tall medium width
Viewable size: ~49"
Width: ~46.4"
Height: ~15.8"
Resolution: 4720x1600
Pixel count: 7,552,000 (weight level 13/30)
Aspect ratio: 2.95 = 59:20, ~21:7.119, ~16:5.424
Perceived overall as ~101.3 PPI (pretty high PPI)
PPI variance: ~1.16 PPI (a close match. Monitors will be flush or near-flush)
Accumulated vertical image variance: ~4.53mm (falls within proper range)
-----------------------------------------------------------------

LAYOUT 3
49.2" 21.5-30-21.5 (2560x1600 & 1920x1080)
Center:
30" viewable, 2560x1600 (16:10)
~100.63 PPI
Sides:
21.5" viewable, 1920x1080 (16:9)
~102.46 PPI
Position inner edge noticeably forward of center's bezel, still remaining bezel-to-bezel.
Total perceived hang past center screen: ~3.12"
Final Gaming Area:
Perceived shape: center is semi-tall & semi-slim, sides have tall medium width
Viewable size: ~49.2"
Width: ~46.5"
Height: ~15.9"
Resolution: 4720x1600
Pixel count: 7,552,000 (weight level 13/30)
Aspect ratio: 2.95 = 59:20, ~21:7.119, ~16:5.424
Perceived overall as ~100.63 PPI (pretty high PPI)
PPI variance: ~1.83 PPI
Accumulated vertical image variance: ~7.22mm (falls within proper range)
-----------------------------------------------------------------

LAYOUT 4
50.9" 21.5-31.5-21.5 (1920x1080 & 1280x720)
Center:
31.5" viewable, 1920x1080 (16:9)
~69.93 PPI
Sides:
21.5" viewable, 1920x1080 (16:9)
Use lowered resolution: 1280x720
~68.31 PPI
Position inner edge backward of center's bezel, hugging it tight & hiding one bezel (on medium-sized bezels).
Total perceived hang past center screen: ~2.93"
Final Gaming Area:
Perceived shape: center is semi-wide & semi-short, sides have slim width
Viewable size: ~50.9"
Width: ~48.5"
Height: ~15.4"
Resolution: 3360x1080
Pixel count: 3,628,800 (weight level 4/30)
Aspect ratio: 3.111111111 = 28:9, ~21:6.75, ~16:5.143
Perceived overall as ~69.93 PPI
PPI variance: ~1.63 PPI
Accumulated vertical image variance: ~9.34mm (falls within proper range)
-----------------------------------------------------------------

LAYOUT 5
51.4" 21.5-32-21.5 (1920x1080 & 1280x720)
Center:
32" viewable, 1920x1080 (16:9)
~68.84 PPI
Sides:
21.5" viewable, 1920x1080 (16:9)
Use lowered resolution: 1280x720
~68.31 PPI
Position inner edge very slightly backward of center's bezel, still remaining bezel-to-bezel.
Total perceived hang past center screen: ~2.93"
Final Gaming Area:
Perceived shape: center is semi-wide & semi-short, sides have slim width
Viewable size: ~51.4"
Width: ~49"
Height: ~15.7"
Resolution: 3360x1080
Pixel count: 3,628,800 (weight level 4/30)
Aspect ratio: 3.111111111 = 28:9, ~21:6.75, ~16:5.143
Perceived overall as ~68.84 PPI
PPI variance: ~0.53 PPI (a close match. Monitors will be flush or near-flush)
Accumulated vertical image variance: ~3.11mm (falls within proper range)


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PostPosted: 20 Oct 2016, 22:43 
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imusrt wrote:
Those won't line up.
- BenQ GW2270 1920x1080, 22" marketed, 21.5" viewable size.
- Acer EB321HQU 2560x1440 32" marketed, "31.5" viewable size.

Where do you find that out? Does it say in the technical specifications?


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PostPosted: 21 Oct 2016, 15:59 
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Something like that. Search like a tester might, for more accuracy.
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Edit: sorry that was incredibly unhelpful.
Here is another idea. Go to a store with a tape & mark your favs down.
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the best idea. Go here & look around. There are Many monitor examples, effort done (that link to layouts, which is cool; but these monitors are getting aged, so they are Examples. They will never be updated, it is an eyesore. But it's something). There are Many PLP layouts, so you get an idea. There are recommendations on shape, size, inner-bezel placement (in something called ...Review).
links:
http://plp-gaming.wikia.com/wiki/PLP_Gaming_Wiki

And ignore the whole games & engines area, it is to be burned (very out of date & hideous). You are only interested in monitors & layouts.


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