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Wow, how did I miss out on this never ending thread :( Still, with BF2 loaded and the .exe properties line and FOV file edited, any difference??? Maybe it's just me folks, but ...naaaa. I will be upgrading my 9800 Pro to the X850 this weekend, then we'll see. Bottom line, all this rhetoric because a lazy game maker fails to fulfill a consumer need. Wake up EA/DICE. -> I believe this is my 2nd vent on this issue.

First of all: Great site, great forums.
I randomly discovered this site a few months ago when I was researching which ws monitor to go for...and have checked it virtually DAILY ever since.

Part of the reason for checking so often has been the vain hope that someone will have found a way of fixing BF2's WS problems.

The FOV 'fix' mentioned above doesnt work.

I've been onto EA...who's support appear totally clueless.

So I'm happy-ish playing the amputated version...

Ben

the lack of WS support in games just shows how keen games developers are to make money without pleasing the consumer, the poor bastards that have to play the thing. from what i have heard BF2 is still horribly buggy and full of crappy glitches, until its sorted i wont get it, and until we get some decent support a lot of people will be buying 4x3's.

i dont mean to offend anyone but the people with the WS monitors are generally more wealthy and/or want the best, and can/ do channel more money into their computer than other users. If anything this market can be targeted as these people are more likely to buy games rather than pirate them, or not get them at all. So the companies are not putting into games bits that cater for the more dedicated/ wealthy gamer, its stupid really. Having seen the pathetic FOV that you get in UT2004 i can justify a widescreen monitor but i cant justify the cost, maybe soon but not yet. FEAR is another example of this, although it is demanding on the gpu, and it is still in demo stage, so there is still hope. Steam games are some of the slowest on the uptake of new technology really, yet they have native WS support in HL2, surely EA (perhaps the largest game developer) can do the same?

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the lack of WS support in games just shows how keen games developers are to make money without pleasing the consumer, the poor bastards that have to play the thing. from what i have heard BF2 is still horribly buggy and full of crappy glitches, until its sorted i wont get it, and until we get some decent support a lot of people will be buying 4x3's.

i dont mean to offend anyone but the people with the WS monitors are generally more wealthy and/or want the best, and can/ do channel more money into their computer than other users. If anything this market can be targeted as these people are more likely to buy games rather than pirate them, or not get them at all. So the companies are not putting into games bits that cater for the more dedicated/ wealthy gamer, its stupid really. Having seen the pathetic FOV that you get in UT2004 i can justify a widescreen monitor but i cant justify the cost, maybe soon but not yet. FEAR is another example of this, although it is demanding on the gpu, and it is still in demo stage, so there is still hope. Steam games are some of the slowest on the uptake of new technology really, yet they have native WS support in HL2, surely EA (perhaps the largest game developer) can do the same?

You are the one that is suffering. WS is a wonderful thing and for folks who do use their comps for other stuff than gaming, it's great and a very welcome change. BF2 doesn't natively support WS, but that is not a reason not to get one. WS is great!

And no, people who own these are not that rich, I work full time and finishing up my full time masters degree now. At the same time I have a family and a kid, a house, a car and all the bills to go along. You just have to be smart about the purchase. I paid $380 for each of my two Dell 2405 monitors, when a regular price is $800. Search for coupons and be patient for a nice sale and you will get this awesome monitor too. http://techbargains.com and http://fatwallet.com are great sites to look for coupons and watch for sales. I use RSS feed from techbargains for up to a minute updates not to miss any sales. Hope you can snatch one or two of these honeys :)

Good Luck.

i don’t mean to offend anyone but the people with the WS monitors are generally more wealthy and/or want the best

Well Gilly, I more than likely fall in the "of want the best". I figured with my nice tax refund and the fact my CRT was over 5 years old, I should invest once on a good LCD. Dell had the best price and best rating (CPU, CGW). Wealthy?? I work for living for sure as a lonely IT Manager and underpaid for what I do, plus, kept my wife home with the little ones and paying for my own health insurance didn't help. No offense taken, but have to ask... Gilly, how much did that 6800 video card set you back?? Why not enjoy the output? Once a 2405 'er never will you go back :lol:

And yes HL2 is WS and for sure was awesome to view and gives us all hope.

well the cheapest place for a 2405 is ebay and thats about £650 + shipping at anywhere up to about £70. I have not seen any coupons that work with UK suppliers, and i also got a decent deal for my 6800GT, it was a lot of money at the time but its fast. I can see the benefit to non gaming applications too, having a web browser open next to your work is far better than having to switch between the two. I just cant justify spending 3x as much as my graphics card cost for a monitor, yes the resolution is insane and will push my card like it was ment to run but the initial cost is really the hurting factor. If i lived in the US and had tax rebates i would purchase one, the same goes for if they are $380. unfortunately they are about 4x the cost of that normally (i have seen them at £1150) and that is just stupid. They may not be a bad price for what they are but its a shame nowhere local to me can demo me one... ;)

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Gilly,

Well, I got my 2405 at http://www.isquaredinc.com for $1000 in the Spring. Now, there around $899 on the website. But being a Brit they may not ship internationally but worth the look nonetheless. I believe that boils down to about £400 on you side of the ocean. On another note, just because you don't get the WS support, still, with the FILL on the widescreen still looks awesome compared to 4:3 anyday. Plus, I have a WS TV so I'm used to shorter fatter people and things..... :lol:

i looked on dells site, the 2005fpw is £390 atm and the 2405 is nearly £700 :( never mind, i will look on the site now :)

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i must have missed something, i ended paying £800 for my 2405 which arrived on monday. Worth the money though :)